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What’s a country?

In my last update you may have wondered: why “plus two” countries when Paul and Libby just went to Alaska (USA) and Canada? For our Travel Trifecta rules, we’re using the country list defined by the Traveler’s Century Club (here’s a link to their country list and rules). So what? Well, the TCC actually counts Alaska as a separate county!

This probably strikes you as silly, especially if you’re an American. Indeed, I had a similar initial reaction. (Although after visiting Alaska, I have to say in some ways it felt more foreign, or at least more detached, than say Toronto, Canada or Nassau, Bahamas.) However, it turns out it’s not so easy to define a list of countries.

It’s actually a significant point of debate.

Let’s start with something easy. How many countries are there?

As of today, the United Nations lists 192 members. The United States of America recognizes 194 independent states (the UN list plus Vatican City and Kosovo). Wikipedia (that store of all knowledge) lists 203 countries (the UN members, Vatican City, plus 10 other “sovereign” states recognized by some number of other countries).

Of course, a number of dependent territories or dependencies also exist in the world. These territories are often the remnants of colonization. The Caribbean and South Pacific are chock-a-block with examples: Cayman Islands, Puerto Rico, Netherlands Antilles, US & British Virgin Islands, French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Saint Martin, Aruba, and so on.

Since 1945, the United Nations has maintained a (not uncontroversial, I might add) list of “Non Self-Governing Territories” with the expressed intent of decolonization: the unconditional transfer of all powers to these states “so that they might enjoy complete freedom and independence.” And, in fact, the UN has been successful. A number of current countries were dependent territories back in 1945, including Cyprus and Malta (which we visited this year). Clearly, the list of countries is fluid.

Some places also have people who argue for their own independence. Many of these groups are members of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization (UNPO). Here are a few you’ve probably heard of: Taiwan, Tibet, Kurdistan, and Kosovo. There’s also a long list of peoples and places you’re likely blissfully ignorant of, such as Batwa, Khemer Krom, Mari, and Tsimshian (note: each of these are on different continents, including North America). Yet, despite the seemingly long odds, at least six members of the UNPO have become recognized independent countries: Estonia, Latvia, Armenia, Georgia, Palau, and Timor-Leste.

Let’s also not forget the locations under “military occupation” (depending upon whom you ask). This list includes places like the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, Kashmir, Northern Cyprus, and Tibet.

We also have the “unusual” exception cases, such as: how to treat the European Union (a supranational organization), Antarctica (lacking a permanent population, but many land claims), or even the Knights Templar (Sovereign Military Order of Malta)!

And, I haven’t even brought up the issue of micronations!

Clearly, this is messy.

We weren’t happy with either the lists of the UN or USA. I’ll avoid specific geopolitical disputes. But, we simply believe that many non-independent territories should become (or be recognized as) sovereign entities. Others—many of which we’re not even familiar with—will become so. It’s the course of history.

Moreover, many dependencies have little resemblance to the parent states.

Is visiting Aruba really like traveling to the Netherlands? Can you skip Tahiti because you’ve “been to France” already? When you’ve visited the Cayman Islands, why bother traveling to Gibraltar or Scotland, right? You see how the logic breaks down.

Given that the list of countries is evolving and relative (based on who you ask) anyway, a more useful question is where to draw the line?

Enter the Traveler’s Century Club. Their list of 319 “countries” is based on independent states, as well as places that are “politically, geographically, or ethnologically” removed from the parent country. To us, this seems like a reasonable standard.

That’s why we’ve accepted it.

Of course, the TCC isn’t the final word. MostTraveledPeople.com lists 762 unique places in the world to visit. This seems to be accomplished primarily by adding internal divisions within a country to the list (such as states in America and provinces in Canada). Is this an equally valid list? Sure. We’ve just opted for a different standard.

Now… what constitutes a visit? :-)

So, I’ve finally managed to get our travel stats updated, as well as the “Been There!” and “Going There!” pages. With the Alaskan cruise, we’ve inched a bit closer to our goal: 23 (+2) countries and 18 (+1) states.

I also realized that I’d forgotten a country in my prior count: Vatican City, thus bringing the total to 24 (+1) countries.

At the airport…

We’re in Vancouver and at the airport. Transit between ship to plane was seamless. We did the expedited disembarkation, and it was a breeze for us. Our outbound plane just landed, so hopefully everything will be on time (as our connection in ATL is close).

After setting our clocks forward an hour last night, we awoke a little later this morning. We enjoyed another breakfast in our cabin, followed by some conversation over coffee. We also learned this morning that we’d successfully beaten back the dreaded “dam shits” and were safely off of “code red” conditions. Bonus!

Our first event was the “disembarkation” lecture / crew farewell at 10am. I have to say, the crew on this ship really has been remarkable. The service, as one would expect, has been very good. But, I think the crew really went above and beyond dealing with the (potential) health issues. We witnessed them constantly scrubbing, cleaning, and disinfecting the ship from bow to stern. We found the ship’s musicians serving salad in the Lido, and crew members from the spa dishing out breakfast in the morning. Up late at night (or early in the morning), you’d literally witness the crew disinfecting nearly every hard surface on the ship. So, despite the slight inconveniences to us, the ms Veendam deserves accolades for keeping us healthy!

At 11am, we attended the second culinary demonstration by the James Beard Award-winning guest chef, Donald Link. He made a couple of classic Cajun dishes, which we were finally able to sample. They were excellent. I’m going to make a point of ordering his book, Real Cajun. And, next time I’m in New Orleans, I plan to visit one of his establishments.

Here’s a photo of the Veendam’s impressive culinary arts center:

Veendam's Culinary Arts Center

For lunch, we went to the Terrace Grill and enjoyed (for the first time) their Mexican buffet (closed to do “code red” previously). The food was pretty good (though certainly not great by standards), but it really hit the spot for us. Of course, I’ve pretty much never met a plate of tacos or nachos that I didn’t like at least well enough. :-)

We spent the afternoon reading, relaxing, and watching the scenery go by… we actually saw a few killer whales today off the stern of the ship. I took a few pictures, but alas they’re less impressive than my mediocre humpback whale snapshots. The weather remained overcast and misty for much of the day, making the scenery a little more romantic and mysterious (though also more difficult to see).

Here’s a photo of the Inside Passage:

Inside Passage

After working on packing, we ate dinner in the Lido, which was good in terms of quality and had the added benefit of being returned to more of a self-service establishment. We also stopped down to listen to Adagio Strings (the ship’s string quartet) play this evening… they’re some of the best entertainment we’ve ever experienced on a cruise. They play proper chamber music, and they play it well. Bravo!

Finally, we went to the ship’s show lounge tonight to see if this performance, Live from the Stardust Lounge: The Best of Classic Las Vegas, would be better than last evening’s (minor) train wreck. It turned it was. The male vocal leads on the Veendam were very strong; the female vocalists we less so. At least the performance was redemptive from last evening’s attempt.

This will probably be my last post until we return to Tampa. We fly out of Vancouver in the morning and will arrive in Tampa late Sunday night. Upon returning home, I will post a complete review of the cruise, related literature from the ship, and pictures.

Day #6 Ketchikan, AK

We awoke this morning to the sight of a foggy and slightly choppy sea. I find that after a few days on a particular cruise you eventually settle into a certain pattern of life. And, so we’ve done on this journey. We started the day with our usual room service breakfast. We followed this up with some of the ship’s enrichment programs: a baking demonstration and a talk by the guest chef about the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans.

We then visited Sheryll (who’s exceedingly friendly and very helpful), the future cruise consultant here on the Veendam. We signed up for the future cruise promotion, which for $100 per person allows you to book and hold basically any available cruise within the next four years. In addition, we’ll get some of this money back in the form of future onboard credit ($70/pp.), and we got a “thank you” bottle of champagne (bonus for me) delivered to our stateroom on this cruise. At the moment, we’re signed up for a 7-day cruise next summer (July 7) on the inaugural sailing of the ms Nieuw Amsterdam. Will it happen? I don’t know. The price isn’t great… actually, it’s downright awful compared to our current insanely cheap cruise ($114/pp per day vs. $292/pp per day!). I’m also not sure that we’ll want to leave the baby that soon (as sailing with him/her won’t be an option that early either). That said, we have the flexibility to move this deposit to any other sailing… including ones that are closer to home, at different times, and which might be better price performers. The upside is that the cruise (if combined with a quick couple of extra days on land), might allow us to knock out 6-7 new countries in as little as 12 days. That makes the cost per country fairly good. So, we’ll see. In any case, I’m always happier to come home from a vacation with some sense of the next trip well in mind. :-)

Anyway, back to today… we spotted a few humpback whales from the balcony of our cabin this morning. The photos aren’t too exciting, but it was nice to have had this wildlife experience.

Inside Passage -- Whale

We enjoyed another lovely lunch in the Pinnacle Grill. (Note: this time Libby went for something more exotic: a Thai-inspired version of shrimp and crab cakes, which were excellent).

We docked in Ketchikan on schedule. Since we had nothing planned for the day, we hung around the ship for a bit and waited for any crowds to disperse. Ketchikan is also a very busy (and rather touristy) port. As we were arriving, NCL’s Pearl was departing. In port with us were the Carnival Spirit and Celebrity Mercury.

We didn’t do too much in Ketchikan. We sort of wandered around the downtown area and window shopped (mostly trinkets and trash, plus jewelery of indeterminable quality and value). We did stop into the Wells Fargo to exchange some money (as I thought I might need Canadian dollars for the ride to the airport in Vancouver). We also visited the very nice and informative Southeast Alaska Discovery Center ($5/pp – worthy of the modest price). All told, we probably sent 2-3 hours in Ketchikan. If we return, we’ll make a point of doing something “more outdoorsy.” But, as it happened, this was alright, because it started to rain on the way back to the ship.

Here’s a photo of Ketchikan from our balcony on the ship:

Ketchikan, AK

We had dinner tonight in the Lido. The overall quality in the buffet is higher but the selection more limited than on other cruise lines (NCL and RCI specifically). The hours also seem strangely limited and/or out of sync with some of the day’s activities (for example, the ship departs tonight at 8:30 but the Lido closes at 8:00 – though luck for those who’ve tried to make the most of their day in port I suppose). On balance, I don’t think I like the buffet operation as much on HAL… but maybe this is a function of the itinerary and ship rather than a more systemic shortcoming??? I just don’t have enough data points to know.

We also attended our first entertainment performance aboard the ship tonight. I’m not sure why it took us so long, especially as we attended nearly everything aboard the Brilliance of the Seas earlier this year. I suspect it’s just related to that “rhythm of the cruise” thing I wrote of earlier (and perhaps also due to the effect of the four hour time different, which encouraged early bed times for us from the East coast). Anyway, the show,Encore – A Night at the Symphony, was alright… though neither especially symphony-like nor inspiring of any desire for an encore. Thankfully, the ship has mostly “mature” passengers, who statistically speaking are more likely to be either hard of hearing or simply downright senile. This was one of those rare occasions upon which having such conditions would actually be desirable. Enough said on this topic. (Although, as an aside, it’s a shame because the strings section of the Veendam orchestra can really play chamber music exceedingly well. I’ve heard them as a quartet on many evenings while updating the blog in the Explorations Cafe, and I’ve always been impressed.)

Tomorrow is our final day aboard the ms Veendam – a (hopefully) relaxing and leisurely day at sea.

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